I would love information technology if you guys released your games on PC. I'd buy them in a heartbeat. I love and adore your games, but I don't similar how game consoles go replaced over time or how limiting they are graphically at times. Persona 5 for instance is a gorgeous game, simply by existence on the PS3 and PS4, its being limited in the sense that those consoles can only do and then much. If they were on PC, people would be able to play them at 4k or even 8k 1 mean solar day, and such graphical control would help the games' dazzler show even more. Plus as I said, I prefer the longevity of PCs. If I buy something, I desire to always be able to play it on a modernistic platform. I don't want to have to hope that at that place'due south a port on a newer system each time at that place's a new Playstation console or something. The longevity of games on PC is something that's cracking, and so considering of this, I would love it if you guys released and sold Persona 5 on PC. The aforementioned goes for other games too. Shin Megami Tensei V, Catherine, the whole works.
cungepatty says:
RPCS3 itself is non infringing on Altus'south copyright, and then I'm not certain on what grounds you could issue a DMCA confronting it. And if y'all are listening to your fans, realise that what they desire is an end to the anti-PC mental attitude that the visitor seems to hold, which alienates a large number of its potential fans.
Masterom2000 says:
TL;DR , Atlus strike is valid, if you lot hate the company over this it's your loss, don't believe everything you read on reditard. FOR GOD SAKES ATLUS Stop MAKING GAMES FOR PSVITA!!!!!!
What most people don't realize is that if the patreon page was listing Persona v or using any imagery on their page to assist promote the emulator they were making that is grounds for a strike. If they make it able to run persona 5 without asking the company first that also enables a strike. Like information technology or not, it'due south similar to online streaming where yes, they can't shut downwards web site services for streaming movies/tv shows, but they certainly tin make sites take down their intellectual holding. Same principal. If the patreon group stopped making the emulator when they didn't have to or Patreon themselves canned the page that'due south on them. That being said I savour emulators for games I own for the reason I don't have to hook things upwardly, but anyone that is non going to back up Atlus over this is punishing themselves. There is a ton of piracy with emulators that people pretend doesn't happen, and the defense the "ps3 is erstwhile," well it'south also on PS4 and the game is not old. Side funny note, people that claim they never played this game and don't own a panel merely are yet complaining is pretty comical and a skillful example of why Atlus did this.
Hawkmanh says:
So much negativety on this page my goodness.
You guys practise whatever you call back is correct. You accept my full back up.
lorios says:
yes i would like persona 5 in pc.
Broccoli says:
Everything is very elementary. You refuse the exclusivity of Sony, you release the game on the PC platform. As a event, get fifty-fifty more fans. Without whatsoever emulators and other things. Otherwise, it volition exist easier for people to download this emulator, and play with crashes and glitches. But play. Not all players have the desire / ability to buy the console for some games. So, information technology is worth considering and the fact that the PC has long been less piracy. Non in vain does Square Enix release most of its titles, but exercise not make them exclusive. Although they could well. Other studios also began to release their exclusive games with consoles on the PC.
Rekrul says:
ane. Merely because you don't like what someone is doing in relation to your products doesn't requite yous the right to attempt and kill their projection. Not only is trying to destroy an emulator to continue people from using information technology to play your games a existent douche move, it is completely outside the scope of the DMCA. Emulation is not copyright infringement, no matter how much the software industry would similar it to be.
2. As far every bit I tin see the emulator itself doesn't bypass any DRM, Yes, users are required to featherbed the DRM on discs by decrypting them so that they can be used in the emulator, but the emulator itself doesn't do the decrypting. Therefore the emulator itself isn't violating the DMCA, which means that your takedown notice was baseless on the circumvention issue also.
Further, unless I'm mistaken, the DMCA doesn't even provide for sending takedown notices over circumvention, only actual infringement.
Non to mention that PS3 piracy existed before a working emulator was produced and volition probably proceed to be regardless of the existence of the emulator.
Which brings me back around to my original indicate that it was a douche motility to attack an emulator projection.
Lest y'all think I'g a pirate who just wants to employ the emulator to play games for gratis, allow me to state for the tape that I don't fifty-fifty own a computer capable of emulating the PS2 properly, permit alone the PS3. I've too never played whatever of your games, since it looks like they're all JRPGs, which really don't appeal to me. Well, actually, it's the RPG function that I don't care for, I have cipher against Japanese games, (assuming I tin understand them).
I don't even ain any game consoles from the last decade. To be honest, I really don't like the way game systems today have get then tightly integrated with online services, making you lot install updates and online content, even if yous only want to play the single player campaign. I don't even like the way computer games now crave online registration.
3vi1 says:
You lot have zero intellectual belongings in RPCS3. This is clearly an abuse of the DMCA for which you have no legal standing.
Tire manufacturers do not become to make up one's mind on which cars a consumer may identify their products. Where would the globe be if PC application developers had threatened legal action to keep consumers from running their software on anything but "Genuine IBM" PCs? You should not try to restrict the options of your customers in such a ridiculous mode.
If logic doesn't work, perhaps a cold-shoulder will. I, for ane, volition never buy some other ATLUS game until you retract your DMCA alphabetic character and apologize to the RPCS3 team for threatening to use the legal system in such a conspicuously frivolous and chilling manner.
MarcusDrake says:
I've spent a large corporeality of money supporting you lot during the terminal x (or so) years. I've bought and given away PS2, PS Vita:s and multiple copies of your games to permit friends to experience your games. A large part of your fans have spread the word of your games and nosotros did assist you abound larger, inviting new players, new sources of acquirement.
Information technology saddens me to say, that I volition non exist able to support this company and the games yous create if this is your opinion. This legal misuse, this petty behavior, I hope that y'all practice alter your opinion, understand your legal position and make a public apology to related parties. If not, I gauge myself and many others will spend our coin on other corporate entities.
This joke almost you wanting to take a dialogue while you disable comments helped me determine to cancel my pre-order of your ~200$ vinyl soundtrack.
Shame on y'all, Marcus
pcburakq says:
Fashion to get Atlus, don't listen pathetic pirates who'southward wheeping. Like the game? Cool. Buy it and show back up, tha'southward how information technology should have be. Even one thousand i brand and so lilliputian due to reasons, i still bought Take Your Heart edition. Because the game is so skilful, it deserves it. Money spent well.
Then, whatever plans fora switch port or something'?
Tsarius says:
So at that place is a lot of accent on how you lot guys intendance virtually the experience. Are you implying that if people perfect ps3 emulation, you lot'll allow it slide?
Toger says:
Fashion to directly go for someone's funding, Particularly when yous take no correct to practice so, RPCS3 Is a Ps3 emulator, not a persona emulator, you accept no right to attack their patreon straight, why not outcome a warning first? Enquire for all imagery and copyrighted material to exist removed from the site? Atlus as a company can feel as they like on the best system to play persona on, but you can't dictate that they can merely play on that organisation. Especially when you even so need a copy of persona 5 to play information technology on the emulator to brainstorm with, with the RPCS3 Devs condemning piracy for all games played on their project. If someone wanted to play persona 5 for gratuitous, they very well could, with or without an emulator, Piracy isn't but on PC.
I can appreciate the bulletin hither, but the fact of the thing is, you still don't accept a right to touch them. They aren't breaking any laws past creating open source software that does not distribute any proprietary files anywhere, Emulation Is necessary to preserve our video gaming history, the ps3's life bike is ending and as such and so is it's profitability, when sony stops giving a crap about it, Information technology'south upwards to people like them to make history playable subsequently 5, 10, 20 years. Heck They're the people who will make the game even better to play, Ameliorate AA, Ameliorate Framerates, and other improvements have been washed in other emulators in the past.
A final note here: I've never played persona five, I loved persona 3 and 4, and I played them both on an emulator, Despite owning a ps2, and disks for both games, and it was an accented pleasure to have added graphical fidelity to the ps2 era graphics (HD scaling, MSAA), the support for quick-saving whenever I got one shot past a light or night skill (don't approximate!) and the possibility to experience this game whenever I don't feel like unpacking my ps2 and hooking up it to a modern tv setup. Cheers for reading all this, apologies if I made some of it sound repetitive or if I rambled a bit too much.
Yumeko says:
Thanks for Persona v.
Are you lot taking action to remove the bodily pirated copies from the web? That is very important.
hells says:
While I sympathize your position, y'all are abusing the DMCA system. Emulators are perfectly legal and have already been tested in court (feel free to practice your ain research):
Atari five. Coleco Nintendo v. Epsilon et al. Sony 5. Connectix
Simply put, y'all practise not own or have contributed to the development of the emulator. In addition, the PS3 is owned past Sony but the emulator shares no function of the inventions or intellectual property of Sony Corp.
All that being said, if you lot want to find and persecute the people distributing copies of your software, the globe would be a better place. But to disrupt a software project using a bogus legal statement is frankly insulting. I am not affiliated with any of the above and I accept purchased your games in the past. This forth with the Streaming nonsense you lot tried to push with Persona 5 are insulting and despite me loving your catalog of games I accept to think twice before my next purchase.
I am a software developer, for you to endeavour to shackle those producing their own software that is in no mode associated with your creations or inventions is a threat to ALL software produced. Please reconsider your misguided attempts at what you lot call up is correct and consider the harm beyond your thou that you may cause.
Ender_Mist says:
I empathize I'yard speaking to ASLUS USA, and not ALUS Japan, but I'm going to say this anyway, knowing full well this probably won't be read. Here goes: I understand that Japan has different philosophies about the freedom the PC platform offers, and they have concerns well-nigh mods and pirating, but information technology'southward all really silly when you realize how much games like GTA V on PC have fabricated in terms of pure, raw cash, even when they were originally console exclusives. I personally suffer from motility sickness, and while I love the persona franchise, Persona five was unplayable for me at 30FPS considering it gave me headaches and nausea. I would pay $100 for such a beautiful and perfect game, but with my medical condition, I cannot play it in the electric current state. With this in mind, I have turned to "buggy emulation", which has a half-working 60FPS hack, which makes the game slightly more palatable, but not to the point where I can savour/complete it. I would beloved to run across a version of Persona five on a huge and expanding platform, with options that would brand people like me able to enjoy it. I hope you hear our concerns and have them to centre. 🙂
Sefsama says:
I think it's like this: people love Persona, and they would gladly buy it… but sometimes the cannot afford to buy a PS3 or PS4 to play information technology. And then if P5 would appear on, for instance Steam, it volition get a lot of sales and 'cheers' feedbacks in the first week. I think emulation'due south indicate is to brand great games available for everyone, just not to rip off the creators. Recent researches are quite interesting: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/european union-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/ the core trouble here is that a PC gamer who might try P5 for gratis can't actually buy a game, because there is no such game on PC. And that would be great to ready. Requite gamers a hazard to pay for the game. It's something similar that what'south on people'due south minds. KOEI TECMO who avoided PC for a long time is now releasing Steam versions at the same time as console version. That means they institute it profitable (otherwise, why should they?). And anybody is happy. PC users can purchase Dynasty Warriors All Stars and they practice it gladly. One more matter about PC-users. Since you've noticed people are ready to play laggy emulated Persona, that fact shows PC users are not that sensitive to laggs and glitches as long as the game is working.
icemann says:
Whilst your entitled to an opinion on emulation, you don't have a legal leg to stand on, every bit emulation has already been in the courts (Sony vs BLEEM, 2000) and it was ruled that emulation is completely legal.
Then I'one thousand sorry to say Atlus, but your completely in the incorrect on this ane.
SilverSain says:
Please just bring Persona 5 and your futurity games onto PC, I'm sure plenty of dedicated fans would rather pay to play an official cleaner version of any given Atlus game if they were available. I don't know how much of a say Atlus Usa has on porting games to other platforms, but it would be a dream for me to be able to play a PC edition to Persona 5.
Ivandsi says:
Personally, I recollect the best way to experience Persona is playing Persona, it doesn't really matter which platform. Also, Emuation doesn't necessarily mean piracy, the 1 actor could perfectly have a bought copy of the game and then use that to play the game on the emulator. And nearly that piracy you guys are worried about, they are already modding the game, so I'grand guessing the PS3 version is already pirated. That ways that whoever did that (or got that pirated version) is already enjoying the "all-time way to feel Persona five" on PS3.
Ivandsi says:
BTW, to employ the PS3 emulator you need a high end PC which cost much more than a PS3, then I'g pretty sure that the people that are playing the pirated version, are doing then on a PS3
Me7alShadow says:
Persona 5 on Xbox one would be great. Also Persona 4 ultimax being on Xbox one backwards compatibility is something else that should happen. Thanks!
Suzushiiro says:
Between this and the streaming thing information technology's astonishing how oppressive and draconian y'all can go with your game nearly how oppressive and draconian society can be.
BroWren says:
Dialogues aren't unremarkably prompted by a surprise assail on an open up source project. Considering
A) Both PS3 and PS4 make apply of open source, B) This web log site is managed using open source, and C) You completely misused the DMCA,
The position you've taken is both hypocritical and greedy. If it were not for open source projects, you would not have a platform to develop exclusively for in the commencement identify. I find it highly unlikely that y'all employ no open source internally either, so unless y'all're funding all of the projects you profit from, yous have no room to talk near anyone else. Did you lot pay for git, any of your code editors, or has the FreeBSD project gotten 1 penny from you? I highly doubt it.
I am boycotting Atlus until a total apology is issued to the RPCS3 team. I am also joining the RPCS3 patreon. For a company making big amounts of coin past riding on superlative of open source, you have very little respect for the matter that makes it possible for you to turn a profit.
PersonaHeroes says:
I wonder, when you lot want take downward/DMCA this site: https://nicoblog.org/?southward=Persona+5
for illegal copyright/piracy of Persona 5 game download for PS3 console likewise it playable on RPCS3.
I believe, I has make report 5 times on this website including to atlus japan website for piracy bug.
Zerox says:
I'm not new to the Persona, or the SMT games for that affair, however I would still like to play at the very to the lowest degree a buggy and gltichy version of Persona 5 to run into if its any proficient. I was introduced to Persona with iv and SMT with SJ, and based on my experience with SMT and the management the gameplay has gone with the travesty that is IVA, I don't experience confident enough to buy not only Persona 5, but either a PS3 or PS4 to play the damn game without trying it, and unfortunately I don't know anyone who has one that I can barrow it from.
As I retrieve when information technology was launched SMT Persona in the years of the PSone did not exist plans to launch information technology in America because in that location was a stigma about the American market would not take it, it is truthful that in America SMT does not accept a fandom of the weight of which FF but what is certain is that peradventure SMT did not leave the coast of Japan if it was not for the work of the port for PC with translation to English that made fans who considered that this work should take more diffusion, I accept this repeat to emphasize how deplorable is that Atlus Usa considers that the SMT market is express to an English-speaking public, the language bulwark that prevents the Americans from playing the first persona is the same that today limits their public in Spanish-speaking countries and others, I know it will surely be ignored just I would like to make articulate the reason why people use emulators, for games that are not available in their regions, for lack of economic income, and for the difficulty of being able to run those games on their original hardware when dealing with old hardware hard to obtain and to maintain.
interpol says:
I call up yous should stop doing that. Emulators is a good thing, considering it gives you lot opportunity to play erstwhile games even if the console is no longer sells. Emulators is not illegal and y'all know that. As well in the futurity games like Persona 5 will be available in 4K@60FPS and people who played them on PS3/4 will have the opportunity to replay games on their PC. You showed disrespect for the community under the guise of fighting with piracy. But let's be honest, people who downloaded P5 for free are not even a 1% of all the players. There is no good about you trying to close emulator funding (they accept tiny $3K/Thou for two main devs, they obviously just passionate guys who practice non have lots of money from this), it looks very bad like you are then greedy enough to surf the web in instance somebody taking breadcrumbs from your table. Come on.
And if y'all are listening to the customs — practice not steal the opportunity from people to relish your games. Permit'southward face up it: fifty-fifty piracy brings yous some fans (it's non good merely if you really want more than players to experience your game — let it be).
If you want to know what the community thinks — read the Reddit conversation on RPCS3 subreddit.
I would love information technology if you guys released your games on PC. I'd buy them in a heartbeat. I love and adore your games, but I don't similar how game consoles go replaced over time or how limiting they are graphically at times. Persona 5 for instance is a gorgeous game, simply by existence on the PS3 and PS4, its being limited in the sense that those consoles can only do and then much. If they were on PC, people would be able to play them at 4k or even 8k 1 mean solar day, and such graphical control would help the games' dazzler show even more. Plus as I said, I prefer the longevity of PCs. If I buy something, I desire to always be able to play it on a modernistic platform. I don't want to have to hope that at that place'due south a port on a newer system each time at that place's a new Playstation console or something. The longevity of games on PC is something that's cracking, and so considering of this, I would love it if you guys released and sold Persona 5 on PC. The aforementioned goes for other games too. Shin Megami Tensei V, Catherine, the whole works.
RPCS3 itself is non infringing on Altus'south copyright, and then I'm not certain on what grounds you could issue a DMCA confronting it.
And if y'all are listening to your fans, realise that what they desire is an end to the anti-PC mental attitude that the visitor seems to hold, which alienates a large number of its potential fans.
TL;DR , Atlus strike is valid, if you lot hate the company over this it's your loss, don't believe everything you read on reditard. FOR GOD SAKES ATLUS Stop MAKING GAMES FOR PSVITA!!!!!!
What most people don't realize is that if the patreon page was listing Persona v or using any imagery on their page to assist promote the emulator they were making that is grounds for a strike. If they make it able to run persona 5 without asking the company first that also enables a strike. Like information technology or not, it'due south similar to online streaming where yes, they can't shut downwards web site services for streaming movies/tv shows, but they certainly tin make sites take down their intellectual holding. Same principal. If the patreon group stopped making the emulator when they didn't have to or Patreon themselves canned the page that'due south on them. That being said I savour emulators for games I own for the reason I don't have to hook things upwardly, but anyone that is non going to back up Atlus over this is punishing themselves. There is a ton of piracy with emulators that people pretend doesn't happen, and the defense the "ps3 is erstwhile," well it'south also on PS4 and the game is not old. Side funny note, people that claim they never played this game and don't own a panel merely are yet complaining is pretty comical and a skillful example of why Atlus did this.
So much negativety on this page my goodness.
You guys practise whatever you call back is correct. You accept my full back up.
yes i would like persona 5 in pc.
Everything is very elementary. You refuse the exclusivity of Sony, you release the game on the PC platform. As a event, get fifty-fifty more fans. Without whatsoever emulators and other things.
Otherwise, it volition exist easier for people to download this emulator, and play with crashes and glitches. But play.
Not all players have the desire / ability to buy the console for some games.
So, information technology is worth considering and the fact that the PC has long been less piracy. Non in vain does Square Enix release most of its titles, but exercise not make them exclusive. Although they could well.
Other studios also began to release their exclusive games with consoles on the PC.
ane. Merely because you don't like what someone is doing in relation to your products doesn't requite yous the right to attempt and kill their projection. Not only is trying to destroy an emulator to continue people from using information technology to play your games a existent douche move, it is completely outside the scope of the DMCA. Emulation is not copyright infringement, no matter how much the software industry would similar it to be.
2. As far every bit I tin see the emulator itself doesn't bypass any DRM, Yes, users are required to featherbed the DRM on discs by decrypting them so that they can be used in the emulator, but the emulator itself doesn't do the decrypting. Therefore the emulator itself isn't violating the DMCA, which means that your takedown notice was baseless on the circumvention issue also.
Further, unless I'm mistaken, the DMCA doesn't even provide for sending takedown notices over circumvention, only actual infringement.
Non to mention that PS3 piracy existed before a working emulator was produced and volition probably proceed to be regardless of the existence of the emulator.
Which brings me back around to my original indicate that it was a douche motility to attack an emulator projection.
Lest y'all think I'g a pirate who just wants to employ the emulator to play games for gratis, allow me to state for the tape that I don't fifty-fifty own a computer capable of emulating the PS2 properly, permit alone the PS3. I've too never played whatever of your games, since it looks like they're all JRPGs, which really don't appeal to me. Well, actually, it's the RPG function that I don't care for, I have cipher against Japanese games, (assuming I tin understand them).
I don't even ain any game consoles from the last decade. To be honest, I really don't like the way game systems today have get then tightly integrated with online services, making you lot install updates and online content, even if yous only want to play the single player campaign. I don't even like the way computer games now crave online registration.
You lot have zero intellectual belongings in RPCS3. This is clearly an abuse of the DMCA for which you have no legal standing.
Tire manufacturers do not become to make up one's mind on which cars a consumer may identify their products. Where would the globe be if PC application developers had threatened legal action to keep consumers from running their software on anything but "Genuine IBM" PCs? You should not try to restrict the options of your customers in such a ridiculous mode.
If logic doesn't work, perhaps a cold-shoulder will. I, for ane, volition never buy some other ATLUS game until you retract your DMCA alphabetic character and apologize to the RPCS3 team for threatening to use the legal system in such a conspicuously frivolous and chilling manner.
I've spent a large corporeality of money supporting you lot during the terminal x (or so) years. I've bought and given away PS2, PS Vita:s and multiple copies of your games to permit friends to experience your games. A large part of your fans have spread the word of your games and nosotros did assist you abound larger, inviting new players, new sources of acquirement.
Information technology saddens me to say, that I volition non exist able to support this company and the games yous create if this is your opinion. This legal misuse, this petty behavior, I hope that y'all practice alter your opinion, understand your legal position and make a public apology to related parties. If not, I gauge myself and many others will spend our coin on other corporate entities.
This joke almost you wanting to take a dialogue while you disable comments helped me determine to cancel my pre-order of your ~200$ vinyl soundtrack.
Shame on y'all,
Marcus
Fashion to get Atlus, don't listen pathetic pirates who'southward wheeping. Like the game? Cool. Buy it and show back up, tha'southward how information technology should have be. Even one thousand i brand and so lilliputian due to reasons, i still bought Take Your Heart edition. Because the game is so skilful, it deserves it. Money spent well.
Then, whatever plans fora switch port or something'?
So at that place is a lot of accent on how you lot guys intendance virtually the experience. Are you implying that if people perfect ps3 emulation, you lot'll allow it slide?
Fashion to directly go for someone's funding, Particularly when yous take no correct to practice so, RPCS3 Is a Ps3 emulator, not a persona emulator, you accept no right to attack their patreon straight, why not outcome a warning first? Enquire for all imagery and copyrighted material to exist removed from the site? Atlus as a company can feel as they like on the best system to play persona on, but you can't dictate that they can merely play on that organisation. Especially when you even so need a copy of persona 5 to play information technology on the emulator to brainstorm with, with the RPCS3 Devs condemning piracy for all games played on their project. If someone wanted to play persona 5 for gratuitous, they very well could, with or without an emulator, Piracy isn't but on PC.
I can appreciate the bulletin hither, but the fact of the thing is, you still don't accept a right to touch them. They aren't breaking any laws past creating open source software that does not distribute any proprietary files anywhere, Emulation Is necessary to preserve our video gaming history, the ps3's life bike is ending and as such and so is it's profitability, when sony stops giving a crap about it, Information technology'south upwards to people like them to make history playable subsequently 5, 10, 20 years. Heck They're the people who will make the game even better to play, Ameliorate AA, Ameliorate Framerates, and other improvements have been washed in other emulators in the past.
A final note here: I've never played persona five, I loved persona 3 and 4, and I played them both on an emulator, Despite owning a ps2, and disks for both games, and it was an accented pleasure to have added graphical fidelity to the ps2 era graphics (HD scaling, MSAA), the support for quick-saving whenever I got one shot past a light or night skill (don't approximate!) and the possibility to experience this game whenever I don't feel like unpacking my ps2 and hooking up it to a modern tv setup. Cheers for reading all this, apologies if I made some of it sound repetitive or if I rambled a bit too much.
Thanks for Persona v.
Are you lot taking action to remove the bodily pirated copies from the web? That is very important.
While I sympathize your position, y'all are abusing the DMCA system. Emulators are perfectly legal and have already been tested in court (feel free to practice your ain research):
Atari five. Coleco
Nintendo v. Epsilon et al.
Sony 5. Connectix
Simply put, y'all practise not own or have contributed to the development of the emulator. In addition, the PS3 is owned past Sony but the emulator shares no function of the inventions or intellectual property of Sony Corp.
All that being said, if you lot want to find and persecute the people distributing copies of your software, the globe would be a better place. But to disrupt a software project using a bogus legal statement is frankly insulting. I am not affiliated with any of the above and I accept purchased your games in the past. This forth with the Streaming nonsense you lot tried to push with Persona 5 are insulting and despite me loving your catalog of games I accept to think twice before my next purchase.
I am a software developer, for you to endeavour to shackle those producing their own software that is in no mode associated with your creations or inventions is a threat to ALL software produced. Please reconsider your misguided attempts at what you lot call up is correct and consider the harm beyond your thou that you may cause.
I empathize I'yard speaking to ASLUS USA, and not ALUS Japan, but I'm going to say this anyway, knowing full well this probably won't be read. Here goes:
I understand that Japan has different philosophies about the freedom the PC platform offers, and they have concerns well-nigh mods and pirating, but information technology'southward all really silly when you realize how much games like GTA V on PC have fabricated in terms of pure, raw cash, even when they were originally console exclusives. I personally suffer from motility sickness, and while I love the persona franchise, Persona five was unplayable for me at 30FPS considering it gave me headaches and nausea. I would pay $100 for such a beautiful and perfect game, but with my medical condition, I cannot play it in the electric current state. With this in mind, I have turned to "buggy emulation", which has a half-working 60FPS hack, which makes the game slightly more palatable, but not to the point where I can savour/complete it. I would beloved to run across a version of Persona five on a huge and expanding platform, with options that would brand people like me able to enjoy it. I hope you hear our concerns and have them to centre. 🙂
I think it's like this: people love Persona, and they would gladly buy it… but sometimes the cannot afford to buy a PS3 or PS4 to play information technology. And then if P5 would appear on, for instance Steam, it volition get a lot of sales and 'cheers' feedbacks in the first week.
I think emulation'due south indicate is to brand great games available for everyone, just not to rip off the creators.
Recent researches are quite interesting:
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/european union-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/
the core trouble here is that a PC gamer who might try P5 for gratis can't actually buy a game, because there is no such game on PC. And that would be great to ready. Requite gamers a hazard to pay for the game. It's something similar that what'south on people'due south minds.
KOEI TECMO who avoided PC for a long time is now releasing Steam versions at the same time as console version. That means they institute it profitable (otherwise, why should they?). And anybody is happy. PC users can purchase Dynasty Warriors All Stars and they practice it gladly.
One more matter about PC-users. Since you've noticed people are ready to play laggy emulated Persona, that fact shows PC users are not that sensitive to laggs and glitches as long as the game is working.
Whilst your entitled to an opinion on emulation, you don't have a legal leg to stand on, every bit emulation has already been in the courts (Sony vs BLEEM, 2000) and it was ruled that emulation is completely legal.
Then I'one thousand sorry to say Atlus, but your completely in the incorrect on this ane.
Please just bring Persona 5 and your futurity games onto PC, I'm sure plenty of dedicated fans would rather pay to play an official cleaner version of any given Atlus game if they were available. I don't know how much of a say Atlus Usa has on porting games to other platforms, but it would be a dream for me to be able to play a PC edition to Persona 5.
Personally, I recollect the best way to experience Persona is playing Persona, it doesn't really matter which platform. Also, Emuation doesn't necessarily mean piracy, the 1 actor could perfectly have a bought copy of the game and then use that to play the game on the emulator.
And nearly that piracy you guys are worried about, they are already modding the game, so I'grand guessing the PS3 version is already pirated. That ways that whoever did that (or got that pirated version) is already enjoying the "all-time way to feel Persona five" on PS3.
BTW, to employ the PS3 emulator you need a high end PC which cost much more than a PS3, then I'g pretty sure that the people that are playing the pirated version, are doing then on a PS3
Persona 5 on Xbox one would be great. Also Persona 4 ultimax being on Xbox one backwards compatibility is something else that should happen.
Thanks!
Between this and the streaming thing information technology's astonishing how oppressive and draconian y'all can go with your game nearly how oppressive and draconian society can be.
Dialogues aren't unremarkably prompted by a surprise assail on an open up source project. Considering
A) Both PS3 and PS4 make apply of open source,
B) This web log site is managed using open source, and
C) You completely misused the DMCA,
The position you've taken is both hypocritical and greedy. If it were not for open source projects, you would not have a platform to develop exclusively for in the commencement identify. I find it highly unlikely that y'all employ no open source internally either, so unless y'all're funding all of the projects you profit from, yous have no room to talk near anyone else. Did you lot pay for git, any of your code editors, or has the FreeBSD project gotten 1 penny from you? I highly doubt it.
I am boycotting Atlus until a total apology is issued to the RPCS3 team. I am also joining the RPCS3 patreon. For a company making big amounts of coin past riding on superlative of open source, you have very little respect for the matter that makes it possible for you to turn a profit.
I wonder, when you lot want take downward/DMCA this site:
https://nicoblog.org/?southward=Persona+5
for illegal copyright/piracy of Persona 5 game download for PS3 console likewise it playable on RPCS3.
I believe, I has make report 5 times on this website including to atlus japan website for piracy bug.
I'm not new to the Persona, or the SMT games for that affair, however I would still like to play at the very to the lowest degree a buggy and gltichy version of Persona 5 to run into if its any proficient. I was introduced to Persona with iv and SMT with SJ, and based on my experience with SMT and the management the gameplay has gone with the travesty that is IVA, I don't experience confident enough to buy not only Persona 5, but either a PS3 or PS4 to play the damn game without trying it, and unfortunately I don't know anyone who has one that I can barrow it from.
As I retrieve when information technology was launched SMT Persona in the years of the PSone did not exist plans to launch information technology in America because in that location was a stigma about the American market would not take it, it is truthful that in America SMT does not accept a fandom of the weight of which FF but what is certain is that peradventure SMT did not leave the coast of Japan if it was not for the work of the port for PC with translation to English that made fans who considered that this work should take more diffusion, I accept this repeat to emphasize how deplorable is that Atlus Usa considers that the SMT market is express to an English-speaking public, the language bulwark that prevents the Americans from playing the first persona is the same that today limits their public in Spanish-speaking countries and others, I know it will surely be ignored just I would like to make articulate the reason why people use emulators, for games that are not available in their regions, for lack of economic income, and for the difficulty of being able to run those games on their original hardware when dealing with old hardware hard to obtain and to maintain.
I call up yous should stop doing that. Emulators is a good thing, considering it gives you lot opportunity to play erstwhile games even if the console is no longer sells. Emulators is not illegal and y'all know that.
As well in the futurity games like Persona 5 will be available in 4K@60FPS and people who played them on PS3/4 will have the opportunity to replay games on their PC. You showed disrespect for the community under the guise of fighting with piracy. But let's be honest, people who downloaded P5 for free are not even a 1% of all the players. There is no good about you trying to close emulator funding (they accept tiny $3K/Thou for two main devs, they obviously just passionate guys who practice non have lots of money from this), it looks very bad like you are then greedy enough to surf the web in instance somebody taking breadcrumbs from your table. Come on.
And if y'all are listening to the customs — practice not steal the opportunity from people to relish your games. Permit'southward face up it: fifty-fifty piracy brings yous some fans (it's non good merely if you really want more than players to experience your game — let it be).
If you want to know what the community thinks — read the Reddit conversation on RPCS3 subreddit.